{"id":1213,"date":"2002-09-30T00:00:54","date_gmt":"2002-09-30T08:00:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/blog\/2002\/09\/30\/stealing\/"},"modified":"2002-09-30T00:00:54","modified_gmt":"2002-09-30T08:00:54","slug":"stealing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/blog\/2002\/09\/30\/stealing\/","title":{"rendered":"Stealing?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>well, this is the monthly closing entry and i&#8217;m sorry to say that i didn&#8217;t have much planned for it. sigh.. too much hw! =( however, my website has hit a new record. <strong>OVER 1400 hits<\/strong> in September &#8217;02!!! I mean that highest before was in February &#8217;02 with merely 800 hits!<\/p>\n<p>well, i&#8217;ll end this month with a little debate cunndogg and i had. think about this question: &#8220;Let&#8217;s say hypothetically you know that you&#8217;d never buy this certain item, but you had the means to reproduce it, and you do. Does that constitute as stealing?&#8221; okay, first of all, many of you might bring up the point of selling. You don&#8217;t sell it, it&#8217;s just for personal usage. Cunndogg brought up the pt of if you are sure you won&#8217;t buy it, then you aren&#8217;t depriving the original creator anything since even if you don&#8217;t reproduce this item, the original creator still wouldn&#8217;t have gotten any money from you. I brought up the point that this is just stealing the research and work the creator had to do. Cunndogg says the research and work is already done, therefore you can&#8217;t really undo that. And stealing his work\/research doesn&#8217;t deprive him of anything either IF you knew you weren&#8217;t going to buy the item in the first place. Cunndogg brings up the example of a Lexus. Let&#8217;s say someone had the means to reproduce a Lexus. He knows he&#8217;ll never buy one because it&#8217;s just too expensive and outta his league. He reproduces one. He doesn&#8217;t deprive the Lexus creator any monetary value or raw material. I thought about this for awhile, and came back that the victim here isn&#8217;t really the Lexus creators, but the public instead. since you didn&#8217;t have to pay for a Lexus, while everyone else does, you&#8217;re depriving them of their money which you and them share the same luxury. cunndogg says that&#8217;s not really depriving them since they were willing to pay for it, but he did say because Lexus are luxury items, reproducing it will cause it&#8217;s value to decrease. So we go to another example, software. We randomly chose adobe photoshop just for the heck and the amazing price tag on it. Let&#8217;s say that a student knew that he\/she will never purchase the software. would it be stealing if he downloaded the software for free and used it. on the other hand, there&#8217;s a another student that NEEDS the software for a certain class, but he doesn&#8217;t have the connections to download the software for free. So he was FORCED to buy it while the other student doesn&#8217;t. Cunndogg says that the student who got the software for free, in no way deprived the student who actually bought the software. i said while the student who didn&#8217;t buy the software has $400 extra (made up #) to spend, the student who did might&#8217;ve used his lunch money for a year. I&#8217;m saying that IF it is in your power to buy it, and you don&#8217;t because you know you&#8217;ll never buy it, then therefore you&#8217;re depriving the other student of that $400 that he could&#8217;ve spent on other things. Cunndogg says that the 2 students are in no way connected. and even so, adobe photoshop&#8217;s main target are businesses. if student&#8217;s use them it only makes them become more of a standard therefore actually helping adobe out. The argument sort&#8217;ve ended there with other examples including music\/mp3 and etc.<\/p>\n<p>I just thought of another rebuttal however. Let&#8217;s say IF everyone bought a product, generally, prices will drop yielding more customers. But if half the consumers that uses this product doesn&#8217;t pay for it, to make up for lost revenue, they&#8217;ll have to increase the price on the remaining customers. therefore, is the victims the public?<\/p>\n<p>it&#8217;s a nice question to ponder on and if you&#8217;d like to submit any feedback, feel free to email me. my email is located on the left beneath the menu. ^_^x<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>well, this is the monthly closing entry and i&#8217;m sorry to say that i didn&#8217;t have much planned for it. sigh.. too much hw! =( however, my website has hit a new record. OVER 1400 hits in September &#8217;02!!! I mean that highest before was in February &#8217;02 with merely 800 hits! well, i&#8217;ll end &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/blog\/2002\/09\/30\/stealing\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Stealing?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[11],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1213"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1213"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1213\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1213"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1213"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1213"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}