{"id":826,"date":"2006-10-08T19:23:18","date_gmt":"2006-10-09T03:23:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/blog\/?p=826"},"modified":"2006-10-08T19:23:18","modified_gmt":"2006-10-09T03:23:18","slug":"heroes-discussion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/blog\/2006\/10\/08\/heroes-discussion\/","title":{"rendered":"Heroes Discussion"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>So I had a talk with RayAlome today in regards to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nbc.com\/Heroes\/\">Heroes<\/a>, what&#8217;s happened so far and what&#8217;s to come. I thought it was quite interesting and wanted to share it with you guys. It might contain major spoilers, or it may not. Reader beware.<\/p>\n<p>Discussion 1: (<a href=\"javascript:toggle('heroes2a');\" id=\"heroes2aTog\">Show<\/a>)<\/p>\n<blockquote id=\"heroes2a\" style=\"display:none\"><p>Krunk4Ever (5:16:42): i have a question regarding what the little girl said<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (5:16:50): let me know when you finish watching episode 2<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (15:43:08): that ep was enjoyable, so was the whole thing 5 weeks out of phase<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (15:43:13): or just the parts with hiro<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:03:03): hehe<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:03:08): so my question is<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:03:15): is the guy who can read minds<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:03:16): siler?<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:03:18): syler?<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:03:22): syla<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:03:27): or whatever his name is?<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:03:53): oh no<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:03:55): he is not<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:04:08): that guy is the one who has been making people flip their lids<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:04:15): yes<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:04:20): but did you hear what the girl said?<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:04:34): he may also be the patient zero you hear talking to the indian dude&#8217;s father on the phone<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:04:48): syla is patient 0<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:05:00): as confirmed by the answering machine thingy<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:05:10): but if you listen closely to what the little girl said:<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:05:15): when the cop found her<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:05:21): Another interesting fact upon reviewing was when you\u2019re listening to the girls thoughts, I think she actually said, \u201cYou hurt my mom and dad. Please don\u2019t hurt me.\u201d Did NBC just review who Siler is? or at least the murderer of this case. Is Siler going around trying to eliminate all the other hereos? If you have heroes, you must have villains I suppose.<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:06:11): i personally don&#8217;t think the police is siler<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:06:16): but someone in that room was<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:06:20): no I don&#8217;t think so either<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:06:32): and my hunch is one of the 2 female agents<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:06:57): could be<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:07:08): did he get a read on both?<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:07:16): yeah<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:07:37): but the lead just thought he&#8217;s worthless<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:07:43): and the other thought, can he read minds?<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:07:46): BTW so as far as hiro goes was he the only one who&#8217;s storyline was weeks later<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:07:51): yes<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:07:56): because if you remember<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:08:01): the brother was already elected<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:08:17): ahhhhh I get ya<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:08:22): also, one of the paintings<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:08:33): showed an image of the thumbdrive code<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:08:41): that weird curve like key thingy<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:08:43): not sure if you noticed<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:08:49): i did not<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:08:55): but I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re right<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:08:58): and when they were looking at the genetic sequence<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:09:08): there was a few seconds when that shape flew by<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:09:21): do you think the neighbor has super powers?<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:09:38): quite possible would explain why father got so close with her<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:09:43): or is she with the villains<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:09:48): trying to get data<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:09:54): and the whole thing was planned out<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:09:57): a switcheroo type thing<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:09:58): ooooo that would be terrible<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:10:08): but then again<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:10:12): the iguana<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:10:15): the thumbdrive<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:10:20): the answering machine<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:10:27): maybe they couldn&#8217;t figure out the thumbdrive<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:10:36): i mean the iguanas aquarium<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:10:42): is like the 1st place i&#8217;d look<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:10:50): the others shouldnt have missed it<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:11:13): so now they need his help.<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:11:18): that&#8217;s why they aren&#8217;t killing him<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:11:22): like they killed his father<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:11:34): i mean what more worth does the son have that the father didn&#8217;t<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:11:38): the murder was a mistake<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:12:46): I think it occured just like the guy who was going to shoot him<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:12:49): they didn&#8217;t want to<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:12:54): but they were found out<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:13:23): you think that guy would&#8217;ve shot him?<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:13:47): if anything<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:13:50): he&#8217;d shoot to disable<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:13:52): not to kill<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:14:49): But I mean they&#8217;re still only human<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:14:58): so it was an error?<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:15:04): very well could have been<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:15:15): do you think that other professor is in on it<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:15:32): i mean his responsibility was to relay the father&#8217;s death<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:15:43): i mean, how do we even know the father&#8217;s dead?<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:15:44): lots of possibilities<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:15:56): unless that whole part was removed<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:16:02): we haven&#8217;t seen his corpse yet<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:16:03): ohhhhh<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:16:12): you know, what&#8217;s to say it wasn&#8217;t patient 0<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:16:21): maybe it wasn&#8217;t the organization at all<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:17:12): do you think all of season 1 is gonna be just stopping the deaths and the &#8220;explosion&#8221; or whatever it was<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:17:36): i dont think it&#8217;s about stopping the deaths<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:17:39): just the explosion<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:17:52): and syla would probably be reviewed in the last episode<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:17:54): making season 2<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:17:59): trying to stop syla<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:18:05): so my question is<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:18:15): do you think the painter<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:18:20): paints what the future holds<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:18:26): or paints what the future becomes?<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:18:37): in other words, is the future determined, so he paints<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:18:40): or his paintings determine the future<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:19:09): i think if hiro made a change<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:19:13): i wonder if hiro can also bring along others through time\/space continuum<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:19:23): or planned to make a change baded on observations<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:19:26): his drawings would change<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:19:41): he prob can as he practices<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:19:50): his drawings changing doesn&#8217;t answer the question though<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:19:59): oh and can the painter only use the power when on drugs?<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:20:04): no<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:20:08): wait&#8230;<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:20:09): i dunno<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:20:16): didnt he try to go cold turkey<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:20:20): but then he ODed<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:20:38): another interesting thing is the fact<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:20:41): there was a gun<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:20:46): when i dont think the victim got shot<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:20:51): just sliced his head in half<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:21:14): do you remember the comic?<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:21:26): of hiro that still hasn&#8217;t been published<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:21:35): he was on a cell phone<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:22:32): did the comic show hiro doing something he hadn&#8217;t done in th past?<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:24:02): reviewing right now<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:24:05): kk<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:24:18): it looked to me like it was all stuff from ep1<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:24:25): hmmm<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:24:28): i think<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:24:34): this is actually the interogatin<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:24:38): no no<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:24:50): if you zoom to that part right before he gets caught holding the gun<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:24:54): there&#8217;s a 3 panel comic<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:24:59): of him calling his friend<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:25:03): 2nd panel says:<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:25:06): October 2nd.<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:25:17): October 2nd? No, pal<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:25:23): today is november 5th<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:25:36): and then a shock look on his face<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:25:49): ok, then what he draws is what happens<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:25:53): yep<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:26:05): i guess that actually doesnt matter<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:26:13): if i can draw somethign the future can happen<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:26:38): having the future determine what i draw<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:26:48): is not distinguishable<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:27:31): if i draw some random picture and that happens, what is to say that the future wasn&#8217;t already determined when i drew that<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:27:50): so that question has no answer, as it goes in circles<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:28:21): do you think that wave of destruction was a bomb or someone using a crazy power<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:28:33): i have no idea yet<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:28:44): but i&#8217;m pretty sure syla has started to build a team<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:28:48): of super villains<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:29:24): what about the cheerleaders dad do you think he&#8217;s good or bad<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:29:35): he&#8217;s made out to be a bad guy so far<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:29:48): but i&#8217;m undecided on him for now<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (17:29:53): kk<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:30:07): he might just be naturally creepyy<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (17:30:13): though he did steal the tape<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>If you missed this in Episode 2:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/gallery\/v\/misc\/heroes_key_painting.jpg.html\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/gallery\/d\/10541-2\/heroes_key_painting.jpg\" alt=\"key like curve painting when hiro visits painter's room\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nThe painting of a key like curve when Hiro was searching for the painter in his studio, right before he picks up the gun and gets caught<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/gallery\/v\/misc\/heroes_key_code.jpg.html\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/gallery\/d\/10537-2\/heroes_key_code.jpg\" alt=\"key like curve that scrolls across the screen when the son is looking at the genetic code on his father's usb thumbdrive\" \/><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/gallery\/v\/misc\/heroes_key_code2.jpg.html\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/gallery\/d\/10539-2\/heroes_key_code2.jpg\" alt=\"key like curve that scrolls across the screen when the son is looking at the genetic code on his father's usb thumbdrive\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nKey like curve that scrolls across the screen when the son is looking at the genetric data on his father&#8217;s USB thumbdrive. It&#8217;s a lot easier to see when the screen is scrolling, but you can see the &#8230; that form the shape.<\/p>\n<p>Discussion 2: (<a href=\"javascript:toggle('heroes2b');\" id=\"heroes2bTog\">Show<\/a>)<\/p>\n<blockquote id=\"heroes2b\" style=\"display:none\"><p>Ray AlOm3 (18:17:14): oooooooo<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (18:17:15): the key&#8217;s alot easier to see<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (18:17:17): well i&#8217;ll be<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (18:17:19): when it&#8217;s moving<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (18:17:32): cause it&#8217;s quite evident with the dots<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (18:18:09): that&#8217;s so subtle<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (18:18:23): I would never have noticed it if you didn&#8217;t point it out<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (18:18:53): so considering those are wildcards in the genome of the special individuals<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (18:19:03): do you think its part of some higher thought<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (18:20:21): not sure yet<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (18:20:30): by higher though<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (18:20:40): you mean someone genetically manufacturing super hereos?<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (18:20:49): or well<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (18:20:52): peole with special powers<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (18:20:59): could be humans or some super-smart god<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (18:21:12): ah<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (18:21:14): hmmm<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (18:21:20): i dont think god comes into play<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (18:21:26): or least i hope not<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (18:21:41): it&#8217;d be the easy way out to explain this<br \/>\nRay AlOm3 (18:21:43): hahaha, intelligent design \ud83d\ude09<br \/>\nKrunk4Ever (18:21:50): yah. ;p<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So I had a talk with RayAlome today in regards to Heroes, what&#8217;s happened so far and what&#8217;s to come. I thought it was quite interesting and wanted to share it with you guys. It might contain major spoilers, or it may not. Reader beware. Discussion 1: (Show) Krunk4Ever (5:16:42): i have a question regarding &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/blog\/2006\/10\/08\/heroes-discussion\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Heroes Discussion&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[14],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/826"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=826"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/826\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=826"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=826"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.krunk4ever.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=826"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}